Mimeograph　（by Marchan)
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Re: Before Word Processors and Copy Machines Appeared
(kousei4, 2005/7/25 10:49)
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Stylus, Bone-pen, and a Carbonic-paper
(kousei4, 2005/7/25 10:53)
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Color Printing by Mimeograph
(kousei4, 2005/7/25 10:55)
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Re: Before Word Processors and Copy Machines Appeared
(kousei4, 2005/7/25 11:01)
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Re: Color Printing by Mimeograph
(kousei4, 2005/7/25 11:10)
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Re: Color Printing by Mimeograph
(kousei4, 2005/7/26 0:00)
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Re: Color Printing by Mimeograph
(kousei4, 2005/7/26 9:16)
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Re: Color Printing by Mimeograph
(kousei4, 2005/7/26 9:23)
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Re: Color Printing by Mimeograph
(kousei4, 2005/7/26 9:27)
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How did we make corrections
(kousei4, 2005/7/26 9:32)
kousei4
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Hello Karei san,
Quote:The five set of stylus must be a professional type one.
I dont know if it is made by Horii Teppitsu, but the ones I have with a possible manufacturers name printed says Taperless Stylus and Teppitsu
Quote:Ah, then Karei-san's set must have been a real fine set. Probably, the ones I had was merely impromptu ones.
By the way, I found a notice today which said that a church is throwing away a mimeograph. Although it didnt mention that it was in no use of anything like that, but maybe mimeographs are probably disposed of everywhere.
Quote:A ha, the ones used to wrap sandwiches were white and it was used by Americans soon after the war (the ones similar to Saran Wrap we use today). I remember Americans pulling out a curled paper from a rolled paper in a box which made sandwiches look so delicious!
Maya - Tokorozawa -
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I did not know there was such kind of stylus.
Because I thought that it was not so popular, I didnt put it out in a photograph, but I also had five set of stylus. The box was made by the Horii Teppitsu.
I dont know if it is made by Horii Teppitsu, but the ones I have with a possible manufacturers name printed says Taperless Stylus and Teppitsu
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In the picture, the one on the extreme end of solid one without the ruled line of stencil paper is the stencil paper for drawing a picture.
By the way, I found a notice today which said that a church is throwing away a mimeograph. Although it didnt mention that it was in no use of anything like that, but maybe mimeographs are probably disposed of everywhere.
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We used to wrap sandwiches in wax paper, and come to think of it, stencil paper was a wax paper, too (^-^)/
Maya - Tokorozawa -
kousei4
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Stylus reminded me of a bone-pen, wasnt there such pen?
The nib of it is made of ivory or the bone of the animals.
The nib of those pens were thinner than stylus probably because the touch was softer than the iron nib and it would not damage the stencil paper.
Until very recently, checks and receipts were written by placing carbonic paper underneath to make copies of them, werent they?
Even the documents and contracts that were typed by Japanese typewriters or English typewriters, carbonic papers were placed in between to make copies and the duplicated copies were thinner, werent they?
Karei
The nib of it is made of ivory or the bone of the animals.
The nib of those pens were thinner than stylus probably because the touch was softer than the iron nib and it would not damage the stencil paper.
Until very recently, checks and receipts were written by placing carbonic paper underneath to make copies of them, werent they?
Even the documents and contracts that were typed by Japanese typewriters or English typewriters, carbonic papers were placed in between to make copies and the duplicated copies were thinner, werent they?
Karei
kousei4
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Marchyan, Good evening
I have various memories on mimeographs. Although I can't really put them all altogether in writing, I remember seeing one of those colored ones that was on the bbs of "the member lounge." Then, I made a little search on
mimeograph and found out that there are still many people who are really attached to memiographs.
About the color works:
http://www.showa-corp.jp/toshakan/essay/koubai/sukeda1.html
shows an incredible piece.
A tradition hall of mimeograph is located in Gamo-cho, Shiga Prefecture ,
which is a home town of the inventor of a mimeograph.
http://www.town.gamo.shiga.jp/index2.htm
There are various other colors and I wondered what it would be like if those colors were used. I can't come up with any bright wisdom, but perhaps what we could do is to pass on the memories we have created in our daily life style.
Yuuyuukan 21
I have various memories on mimeographs. Although I can't really put them all altogether in writing, I remember seeing one of those colored ones that was on the bbs of "the member lounge." Then, I made a little search on
mimeograph and found out that there are still many people who are really attached to memiographs.
About the color works:
http://www.showa-corp.jp/toshakan/essay/koubai/sukeda1.html
shows an incredible piece.
A tradition hall of mimeograph is located in Gamo-cho, Shiga Prefecture ,
which is a home town of the inventor of a mimeograph.
http://www.town.gamo.shiga.jp/index2.htm
There are various other colors and I wondered what it would be like if those colors were used. I can't come up with any bright wisdom, but perhaps what we could do is to pass on the memories we have created in our daily life style.
Yuuyuukan 21
kousei4
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Good evening! Maya san
Quote:No, no, it's not that had the real ones, but it's just that I had the ones that were not quite conventional.
I have seen mimeographing for color printing and thought I could make such a thing and bought a set of stylus. However, the process was so complicated so I only used the ordinary stylus for writing characters and hardly used the rest.
Quote:Really? I thought it was a valuable and useful tool but may be it was too big which occupy the space in the house.
Quote:That was right! Our generations major amusement was a movie, and I remember the shining kitchen, pots and pans that appeared in U.S. movies which were like a dream to us.
Karei
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Ah, then Karei-san's set must have been a real fine set. Probably, the ones I had was merely impromptu ones.
I have seen mimeographing for color printing and thought I could make such a thing and bought a set of stylus. However, the process was so complicated so I only used the ordinary stylus for writing characters and hardly used the rest.
Quote:
By the way, I found a notice today which said that a church is throwing away a mimeograph. Although it didnt mention that it was in no use of anything like that, but maybe mimeographs are probably disposed of everywhere.
Quote:
A ha, the ones used to wrap sandwiches were white and it was used by Americans soon after the war (the ones similar to Saran Wrap we use today). I remember Americans pulling out a curled paper from a rolled paper in a box which made sandwiches look so delicious!
Karei
kousei4
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Posts: 71
Mr. Yuuyuukan
Welcome a board!
Quote:Please comment anything you like even at random.
Quote:I didnt know about this site.
Yes, it is incredible.
This is truly an art of mimeograph, isnt it
Quote:I didnt know about this site either. (Sorry I was being too lazy, I guess)
Mimeographs are perfectly made in Japan, arent they?
And since this was invented in Meiji 27th (1894), it surely was a "great invention." It seems that the uniqueness and originality of the Japanese craftsmanships root is sometime in this era and these tools around us.
Quote:If the memories of the things we used in our daily life could somehow be applied or used in our future generations or in the developing countries, I thinks that we have accomplished something that proves our life.
In addition, about "DENSHOUKAN", we still need to consider how we could proceed and to which direction we could align ourselves. Id be delighted to hear any of your comments or suggestions in this regard.
Marchan
Welcome a board!
Quote:
I have various memories on mimeographs.
Quote:
http://www.showa-corp.jp/toshakan/essay/koubai/sukeda1.html
shows an incredible piece.
Yes, it is incredible.
This is truly an art of mimeograph, isnt it
Quote:
A tradition hall of mimeograph is located in Gamo-cho, Shiga Prefecture, which is a home town of the inventor of a mimeograph.
http://www.town.gamo.shiga.jp/index2.htm
Mimeographs are perfectly made in Japan, arent they?
And since this was invented in Meiji 27th (1894), it surely was a "great invention." It seems that the uniqueness and originality of the Japanese craftsmanships root is sometime in this era and these tools around us.
Quote:
There are various other colors and I wondered what it would be like if those colors were used. I can't come up with any bright wisdom, but perhaps what we could do is to pass on the memories we have created in our daily life
style.
In addition, about "DENSHOUKAN", we still need to consider how we could proceed and to which direction we could align ourselves. Id be delighted to hear any of your comments or suggestions in this regard.
Marchan
kousei4
Posts: 71
Posts: 71
Hello Marchan
Quote:The Japanese made mimeograph was invented by Sinjiro Horii and his son. But it is said that Horii and his son developed a mimeograph based on Edisons model which was exhibited in the 1893 Expo. The domestic first production came out the next year.
The major difference between the Japanese one and the American one is in the stencil paper. Japanese stencil paper was a waxed Japanese paper. It seems that a strong stencil paper was required to write a Chinese character.
Quote:I heard that the mimeograph is quite popular in Southeast Asian countries even today. I also read an article which said that the fluorescent light is used instead of the rubber roller. A burned out fluorescent light is used for other purpose!
That certainly is the wisdom achieved through daily life!
Karei
Quote:
Mimeographs are perfectly made in Japan, arent they.
And since this was invented in Meiji 27th (1894), it surely was a "great invention." It seems that the uniqueness and originality of the Japanese craftsmanships root is sometime in this era and these tools around us.
The major difference between the Japanese one and the American one is in the stencil paper. Japanese stencil paper was a waxed Japanese paper. It seems that a strong stencil paper was required to write a Chinese character.
Quote:
If the memories of the things we used in our daily life could somehow be applied or used in our future generations or in the developing countries, I thinks that we have accomplished something that proves our life.
That certainly is the wisdom achieved through daily life!
Karei
kousei4
Posts: 71
Posts: 71
Hello YuuYuukan 21 san,
Quote:Yes, color printing is possible on a mimeograph. It is a kind of lithograph.
In fact, I also wanted to do it and bought a mimeograph.
However, the way to produce it is like, using an ordinary offset printing; red, blue, and the stencil paper of the 3rd edition for yellow are made, and it prints 3 times and piles up. If you want to have black colored letters, itll become the 4th edition.
But then I found out that experience, labor and intuition are required and steps were very complicated, and I soon gave up thinking I had no such talent..
Karei
Quote:
I have various memories on mimeographs. Although I can't really put them all altogether in writing, I remember seeing one of those colored ones that was on the bbs of "the member lounge."
In fact, I also wanted to do it and bought a mimeograph.
However, the way to produce it is like, using an ordinary offset printing; red, blue, and the stencil paper of the 3rd edition for yellow are made, and it prints 3 times and piles up. If you want to have black colored letters, itll become the 4th edition.
But then I found out that experience, labor and intuition are required and steps were very complicated, and I soon gave up thinking I had no such talent..
Karei
kousei4
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Karei san,
Quote:I see, so it isnt really the perfect domestic product.
Quote:Uuum, yes, I can see that it must have been complicated to write old Chinese characters which have many number of strokes.
Quote:Good idea! Using a fluorescent light tube!.
Since the parts supply and electricity reliability cant be expected in the developing countries, maybe mimeographs are more reliable than personal computers.
Thank you very much, it was really interesting.
Marchan
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The Japanese made mimeograph was invented by Niijiro Horii and his son. But it is said that Horii and his son developed a mimeograph based on Edisons model which was exhibited in the 1893 Expo. The domestic first production came out the next year.
Quote:
The major difference between the Japanese one and the American one is in the stencil paper. Japanese stencil paper was a waxed Japanese paper. It seems that a strong stencil paper was required to write a Chinese character.
Quote:
I heard that the mimeograph is quite popular in Southeast Asian countries even today. I also read an article which said that the fluorescent light is used instead of the rubber roller. A burned out fluorescent light is used for other purpose!
Since the parts supply and electricity reliability cant be expected in the developing countries, maybe mimeographs are more reliable than personal computers.
Thank you very much, it was really interesting.
Marchan
kousei4
Posts: 71
Posts: 71
Karei san,
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Woo, so you must have been "girl of illustration mania" from that time?
Im impressed!
Marchan
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In fact, I also wanted to do it and bought a mimeograph.
Woo, so you must have been "girl of illustration mania" from that time?
Im impressed!
Marchan
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Posted on 2005/7/26 9:32
kousei4
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My all friends:
By the way, how did we correct the mistakes when we were writing using a mimeograph?
Marchan
By the way, how did we correct the mistakes when we were writing using a mimeograph?
Marchan
